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Aquí están los ensayos de la Segunda de Mahler, por Bernstein:
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No es la grabación, es la obra . No, fuera de bromas, sí se me hizo un poco rara la escucha de las voces en una escucha "de fondo" que hice al comprarlo (en el coche, de hecho). El estentóreo Botha, la matronil Larsson y, de repente, asoma la cabecita una voz más infantil de la Röschmann..y todo esto con el coro a todo pulmón....todo muy bizarre (como la obra misma )...Robertino Bergamasco escribió:Lo tengo de nuevo de fondo, y sigo escuchando en Das klagende, las voces como muy raras, ¿turbias?, sobretodo las intervenciones de la Röschmann. No sé...
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Robertino Bergamasco escribió:Aquí están los ensayos de la Segunda de Mahler, por Bernstein:
Vaya energia la de Lenny!!! Extraordinario esfuerzo para lograr el equilibrio orquestal y que todos los instrumentos sean escuchados (atentos al comentario sobre el triàngulo...) incluso en un fortìssimo, la gran dificultad que plantean las partituras mahlerianas.
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No me canso de cantar las virtudes de la serie de álbumes "Martha Argerich & Friends - Live from Lugano", un florilegio de música de cámara y music-making del más alto nivel.. Ya está anunciado (para el próximo mes de mayo) el correspondiente al año 2012, 3 CDs que inlcuyen a ...¡Mahler! (el Cuarteto para piano en la menor, claro)...
Aquí los detalles:
Werke von Mozart: Klavierkonzert Nr. 25;Sonate KV 381 für Klavier 4-händig
+Schumann: 6 Stücke im Volkston op. 102
+Brahms: Haydn-Variationen op. 56b für 2 Klaviere
+Dvorak: Klavierquartett Es-Dur op. 87
+Mahler: Klavierquartett a-moll
+Debussy / Griguoli: La Mer für 3 Klaviere
+Medtner: Klavierquintett C -Dur op. posth.
+Martucci: Variationen Es-dur op. 58 für 2 Klaviere
+Smetana;Sonate e-moll für 2 Klaviere zu 8 Händen;Rondo C-Dur für 2 Klaviere zu 8 Händen
+Prokofieff: Violinsonate Nr. 2 D-Dur op. 94b
+Mores / Petrasso: Tacquito militar für 2 Klaviere
Künstler: Martha Argerich, Gautier Capucon, Renaud Capucon, Mischa Maisky, Lila Maisky, Sascha Maisky, Lyda Chen, Lilya Zilberstein, Jing Zhao, Ilya Gringolts, Polina Leschenko, Anton Gerzenberg, Daniel Gerzenberg, Lucia Hall, Dora Schwarzberg, Alessandro Stella, Giorgia Tomassi, Carlo Maria Griguoli, Nelson Braude, Torleif Thedeen, Nora Romanoff-Schwarzberg, Maria Joao Pires, Nicholas Angelich, Nelson Goerner, Alejandro Petrasso, Rusudan Alavidze Orchestra della Svizzera Italiana, Jacek Kaspszyk
Label: EMI, DDD/LA, 2012
Bestellnummer: 3381734
Erscheinungstermin: 10.5.2013
Aquí los detalles:
Werke von Mozart: Klavierkonzert Nr. 25;Sonate KV 381 für Klavier 4-händig
+Schumann: 6 Stücke im Volkston op. 102
+Brahms: Haydn-Variationen op. 56b für 2 Klaviere
+Dvorak: Klavierquartett Es-Dur op. 87
+Mahler: Klavierquartett a-moll
+Debussy / Griguoli: La Mer für 3 Klaviere
+Medtner: Klavierquintett C -Dur op. posth.
+Martucci: Variationen Es-dur op. 58 für 2 Klaviere
+Smetana;Sonate e-moll für 2 Klaviere zu 8 Händen;Rondo C-Dur für 2 Klaviere zu 8 Händen
+Prokofieff: Violinsonate Nr. 2 D-Dur op. 94b
+Mores / Petrasso: Tacquito militar für 2 Klaviere
Künstler: Martha Argerich, Gautier Capucon, Renaud Capucon, Mischa Maisky, Lila Maisky, Sascha Maisky, Lyda Chen, Lilya Zilberstein, Jing Zhao, Ilya Gringolts, Polina Leschenko, Anton Gerzenberg, Daniel Gerzenberg, Lucia Hall, Dora Schwarzberg, Alessandro Stella, Giorgia Tomassi, Carlo Maria Griguoli, Nelson Braude, Torleif Thedeen, Nora Romanoff-Schwarzberg, Maria Joao Pires, Nicholas Angelich, Nelson Goerner, Alejandro Petrasso, Rusudan Alavidze Orchestra della Svizzera Italiana, Jacek Kaspszyk
Label: EMI, DDD/LA, 2012
Bestellnummer: 3381734
Erscheinungstermin: 10.5.2013
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Nueva encarnación del Mahler "oficial" de Klemperer en EMI, ahora en una cajita homogénea con las dedicadas a Beethoven, Bruckner, etc. que ya hemos comentado en e foro...
www.jpc.de lo anuncia para principios de mayo, a 18,99 €..
www.jpc.de lo anuncia para principios de mayo, a 18,99 €..
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Se hacía en falta en esa histórica serie ¿Será el sonido idéntico al de la edición de EMI France ?
Veo que también se anuncia una caja con música del siglo pasado.
Veo que también se anuncia una caja con música del siglo pasado.
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Sí, idéntico.Psanquin escribió:Se hacía en falta en esa histórica serie ¿Será el sonido idéntico al de la edición de EMI France ?
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Thanks Statantango
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Henschel la ha vuelo a tomar con los Wunderhorn... a ver si ahora va le salen bien...
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Ahora jpc.de anuncia el ciclo de Ozawa / Boston en una cajita por 49,99 € (aún no publican portada):
Gustav Mahler (1860–1911)
Symphonien Nr.1-10
14 CDs
Detailinformationen
+Kindertotenlieder
Künstler: Jessye Norman, Kiri te Kanawa, Marylin Horne, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa
Label: Decca, DDD, 1988-1993
Bestellnummer: 3578840
Erscheinungstermin: 15.5.2013
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Gustav-Mahler-1860-1911-Symphonien-Nr-1-10/hnum/3578840
Yo sólo conozco la Octava, y me parece que no está nada mal
Gustav Mahler (1860–1911)
Symphonien Nr.1-10
14 CDs
Detailinformationen
+Kindertotenlieder
Künstler: Jessye Norman, Kiri te Kanawa, Marylin Horne, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa
Label: Decca, DDD, 1988-1993
Bestellnummer: 3578840
Erscheinungstermin: 15.5.2013
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Gustav-Mahler-1860-1911-Symphonien-Nr-1-10/hnum/3578840
Yo sólo conozco la Octava, y me parece que no está nada mal
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La Tercera, la Séptima y los Kindertotenlieder con Norman me gustan mucho. Me parece que es un ciclo que puede competir con otros y que no ha tenido mucha difusión.
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...bueno, pues también la sacan en audio (de regalo el Blu ray):
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Crítica en MC de la Sexta de Luisi
http://www.mundoclasico.com/ed/documentos/doc-ver.aspx?id=2cfe45d7-dc2e-47ed-aed3-f5b52397f05d
http://www.mundoclasico.com/ed/documentos/doc-ver.aspx?id=2cfe45d7-dc2e-47ed-aed3-f5b52397f05d
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Veinte años después Trenkner vuelve con más transcripciones pianísticas mahlerianas ¡Genial!
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Proseigue el ciclo Stenz, ya le queda poco...
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...no se cansan de volver a sacarla:
...eso sí, cada vez con un acoplamiento diferente...
...eso sí, cada vez con un acoplamiento diferente...
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Y tan diferente, que ni siquiera está esa Novena de Mahler ... creo que es un error de jpc, que la anuncia como de Mahler, cuando es la de SchubertRobertino Bergamasco escribió:.....eso sí, cada vez con un acoplamiento diferente...
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...como la vi en novedades mahlerianas en jpc ni confirmé si era de Mahler... y mira que lo he puesto bien grande...
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Suele pasarle hasta a los mejores periódicos ... La búsqueda del scoop pues a veces lleva a estos errores
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Reseña de musicweb-international.com, con algún dato interesante--y bastanta franca-- de la Quinta de Barbirolli que ha sido reeditada recientemente...
This CD proudly proclaims itself as having been re-mastered from “the original master tapes.” Well, not quite accurately. In the original LP release there was a notorious error in the scherzo (at 12.17 in track 3) where the solo horn obbligato simply missed out four bars. For the initial CD release Nicholas Busch, the errant player, returned to Watford Town Hall to restore this passage which were then spliced into the tape. Barbirolli was long dead by this time. One is pleased to hear that this amendment has been incorporated into this reissue as well. It has been omitted from some other CD issues which have appeared over the years. This is the use of technology for precisely the purpose it was intended, to make an already superb performance even better.
During the last decade of his life Barbirolli conducted a number of recordings which have achieved legendary status – one thinks of his Madam Butterfly, his Vaughan Williams Fifth Symphony and his Elgar – many of which would still even today number among the greatest performances of these works on disc. When Barbirolli’s reading of the Mahler Fifth first appeared on a pair of LPs, coupled with a transcendentally beautiful performance of the Ruckert Lieder by Dame Janet Baker, it would certainly have been counted among these. Even at the time doubts could be raised about the standards of the orchestral performance by players who at that date were far from familiar with the work – there are a number of minor errors of both technique and balance which nowadays obtrude. A couple of years later the appearance of Solti’s recording with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra highlighted the vastly superior standard of playing which could be achieved, even if Solti’s sometimes hard-driven approach yielded at a number of points to Barbirolli’s more heartfelt reading. At the present time, when we have had the benefit of a vast number of less fallible new recordings on disc, this reissued Barbirolli CD must perforce yield to the competition.
A word in is order about the Adagietto. In the first place, the title of the movement needs clarification. Mahler did not mean, as would have been expected by his predecessors, the title to be translated as ‘a little slowly’. In any event he usually gave his tempo indications in German rather than Italian, and the movement is clearly marked Sehr langsam – ‘very slowly’ – and within two bars he is further qualifying this with the indication molto rit. The Italian can also be translated as ‘a small slow movement’ and this fits the description far more aptly. It is the only movement in all of Mahler’s symphonies which is scored for strings alone, and it occupies a mere 5 out of a full score of 244 pages. Secondly, there has grown up a habit over the years of taking the marking Sehr langsam to its ultimate limits, so that the movement can last over a quarter of an hour in performance. This approach has been attacked by Mahler scholar Gilbert Kaplan, who contends that it should be played in about half that time or less. In evidence he cites Mahler’s own piano roll of the movement; but to this it can in turn be objected that Mahler, well aware of the limited sustaining power of the piano as opposed to the strings of the orchestra, kept the tempo moving simply to avoid any sense of the flow of the music grinding to a halt. Barbirolli tends towards the ‘slow’ rather than the ‘fast’ school of interpretation, squeezing every last ounce of emotion out of this love music; but he does not go the extremes of Bernstein, who takes over a minute longer, or Tennstedt, who takes a full half minute longer again. In fact he gets it just about right for Mahler’s Sehr langsam and avoids any sense of rush, such as can be found in other performances which trim four minutes or so off the duration of the movement.
Michael Kennedy’s booklet note from 1998 discusses Barbirolli’s legacy as a pioneering conductor of Mahler, describes the recording as “one of the great recordings of a Mahler symphony” but admits that it is “a spacious interpretation”. That is true only in the first movement, taken considerably more slowly than we expect nowadays and which does not altogether avoid a feeling of ponderousness as a result – although yet again he is quicker than Bernstein; the latter with more pointed playing from the Vienna Philharmonic gets more feeling of movement into the music. Kennedy also concedes that some may find the tempo for the second movement too slow. He is slightly slower here even than Bernstein. In fact, it feels fine to my ears. This was the first recording of the Mahler Fifth that I ever heard, but I would like to feel that it is more than nostalgia which makes me love it so much despite its failings
Paul Corfield Godfrey
http://musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/Apr13/Mahler5_Barbirolli_4332902.htm
Entendiendo, como no podía ser de otra forma, que diferentes directores tengan distintas visiones del tempo del Adagietto, que alguien pueda pensar que "adagietto" lo que quiere decir es "poco adagio", ma deja
This CD proudly proclaims itself as having been re-mastered from “the original master tapes.” Well, not quite accurately. In the original LP release there was a notorious error in the scherzo (at 12.17 in track 3) where the solo horn obbligato simply missed out four bars. For the initial CD release Nicholas Busch, the errant player, returned to Watford Town Hall to restore this passage which were then spliced into the tape. Barbirolli was long dead by this time. One is pleased to hear that this amendment has been incorporated into this reissue as well. It has been omitted from some other CD issues which have appeared over the years. This is the use of technology for precisely the purpose it was intended, to make an already superb performance even better.
During the last decade of his life Barbirolli conducted a number of recordings which have achieved legendary status – one thinks of his Madam Butterfly, his Vaughan Williams Fifth Symphony and his Elgar – many of which would still even today number among the greatest performances of these works on disc. When Barbirolli’s reading of the Mahler Fifth first appeared on a pair of LPs, coupled with a transcendentally beautiful performance of the Ruckert Lieder by Dame Janet Baker, it would certainly have been counted among these. Even at the time doubts could be raised about the standards of the orchestral performance by players who at that date were far from familiar with the work – there are a number of minor errors of both technique and balance which nowadays obtrude. A couple of years later the appearance of Solti’s recording with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra highlighted the vastly superior standard of playing which could be achieved, even if Solti’s sometimes hard-driven approach yielded at a number of points to Barbirolli’s more heartfelt reading. At the present time, when we have had the benefit of a vast number of less fallible new recordings on disc, this reissued Barbirolli CD must perforce yield to the competition.
A word in is order about the Adagietto. In the first place, the title of the movement needs clarification. Mahler did not mean, as would have been expected by his predecessors, the title to be translated as ‘a little slowly’. In any event he usually gave his tempo indications in German rather than Italian, and the movement is clearly marked Sehr langsam – ‘very slowly’ – and within two bars he is further qualifying this with the indication molto rit. The Italian can also be translated as ‘a small slow movement’ and this fits the description far more aptly. It is the only movement in all of Mahler’s symphonies which is scored for strings alone, and it occupies a mere 5 out of a full score of 244 pages. Secondly, there has grown up a habit over the years of taking the marking Sehr langsam to its ultimate limits, so that the movement can last over a quarter of an hour in performance. This approach has been attacked by Mahler scholar Gilbert Kaplan, who contends that it should be played in about half that time or less. In evidence he cites Mahler’s own piano roll of the movement; but to this it can in turn be objected that Mahler, well aware of the limited sustaining power of the piano as opposed to the strings of the orchestra, kept the tempo moving simply to avoid any sense of the flow of the music grinding to a halt. Barbirolli tends towards the ‘slow’ rather than the ‘fast’ school of interpretation, squeezing every last ounce of emotion out of this love music; but he does not go the extremes of Bernstein, who takes over a minute longer, or Tennstedt, who takes a full half minute longer again. In fact he gets it just about right for Mahler’s Sehr langsam and avoids any sense of rush, such as can be found in other performances which trim four minutes or so off the duration of the movement.
Michael Kennedy’s booklet note from 1998 discusses Barbirolli’s legacy as a pioneering conductor of Mahler, describes the recording as “one of the great recordings of a Mahler symphony” but admits that it is “a spacious interpretation”. That is true only in the first movement, taken considerably more slowly than we expect nowadays and which does not altogether avoid a feeling of ponderousness as a result – although yet again he is quicker than Bernstein; the latter with more pointed playing from the Vienna Philharmonic gets more feeling of movement into the music. Kennedy also concedes that some may find the tempo for the second movement too slow. He is slightly slower here even than Bernstein. In fact, it feels fine to my ears. This was the first recording of the Mahler Fifth that I ever heard, but I would like to feel that it is more than nostalgia which makes me love it so much despite its failings
Paul Corfield Godfrey
http://musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/Apr13/Mahler5_Barbirolli_4332902.htm
Entendiendo, como no podía ser de otra forma, que diferentes directores tengan distintas visiones del tempo del Adagietto, que alguien pueda pensar que "adagietto" lo que quiere decir es "poco adagio", ma deja
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Ritter escribió:Entendiendo, como no podía ser de otra forma, que diferentes directores tengan distintas visiones del tempo del Adagietto, que alguien pueda pensar que "adagietto" lo que quiere decir es "poco adagio", ma deja
Parece una tontería, pero no lo es tanto... por ejemplo, precisamente a Barbirolli, hombre de tempi amplios y fraseo exquisito, el Adagietto le dura menos de 10 minutos, todo a su debido tiempo; peeeeroooo, sin embargo, para un teórico, supuestamente fiel a la partitura, 0 subjetividad, pura objetividad, 0 romanticismo, hiper historicista-modernista y 0 tonterías, el Adagietto resulta casi (he dicho casi) el más amplio de toda la discográfica. No, no, no es Klemperer en su último periodo, ni Celibidache (ya sabemos de su urticaria mahleriana), ni el refinado Chailly (me refiero a su primer periodo, ya casi casi que es mejor ir dividiendo su producción), ni siquiera lo que se hubiese podido esperar de una posible Quinta de Giulini, ni mucho menos el Levine meditativo de la Novena, no, no, es el Santo Patrón, el único al que todo le queda bien, incluso un Adagietto convertido en Adagio pesante (o Larghetto ¿?), legal, auténtico, legítimo y un toque chic... oh là là.
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Gracias por el interesante link. Una reseña escrita con la cabeza y con el corazón. Da que pensar que hasta los más nostálgicos empiecen a mostrar sus dudas.Ritter escribió:Reseña de musicweb-international.com, con algún dato interesante--y bastanta franca-- de la Quinta de Barbirolli que ha sido reeditada recientemente...
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Ejem, del 10'59" de Boulez al por ejemplo 13'07" de Scherchen o al 13'56" de Haitink/bpo media un casi un tanto amplioMoreno escribió:el Adagietto resulta casi (he dicho casi) el más amplio de toda la discográfica.
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